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think mitt romney needs to do? >> oh, i think mitt romney needs to talk about failure and success. mitt romney may not be the perfect candidate, but this president doesn't have much in the way of accomplishments, especially when it comes to this economy. he has to say look, barack obama, you may have succeeded as a politician but you haven't succeeded as a president. i know what it takes to succeed in life, i've done it a lot in business creating growth and jobs. let's talk about that. >> it does seem in the last couple days his campaign has been kind of trying to make him seem like a warmer guy. i mean, that photo -- >> hes loosened his tie, taken it off. he's laughed a little more. the job for mitt romney clearly is to get in the ring, get in the arena and to show that he can handle these tough issues. he hasn't been specific. he has to avoid talking about taxes, has to avoid talking about the 47%. he has to play offense. and president obama has to make sure that he doesn't play preventive defense. >> just being
think mitt romney needs to do? >> oh, i think mitt romney needs to talk about failure and success. mitt romney may not be the perfect candidate, but this president doesn't have much in the way of accomplishments, especially when it comes to this economy. he has to say look, barack obama, you may have succeeded as a politician but you haven't succeeded as a president. i know what it takes to succeed in life, i've done it a lot in business creating growth and jobs. let's talk about that....
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the winner regardless. >> there's a big problem, lots of big problems for mitt romney right now, but this 47% thing. if you're barack obama, as he has been doing these attack ads the last few days, he will hammer mitt romney over the head throughout this debate about 47%. if he doesn't, he's mad. because it's an incredibly powerful hammer to use, because whichever way you try and spin that, it was a disaster. he called half of the country a bunch of scrounging victims. what does mitt romney do if barack obama does that? >> mitt romney has said a couple things since, piers. the first thing he said was that was me, not my campaign. he actually took responsibility which i appreciate when a grown man says i'm sorry, i made a mistake. number two, number two, his campaign is all about 100% of america and here's what he meant. he said it was inelegantly stated but i agree, not just the president will take him to task on that but i think the debate questioners will ask him. but romney should look at that as an opportunity not to be defensive again but to explain precisely what he meant. the
the winner regardless. >> there's a big problem, lots of big problems for mitt romney right now, but this 47% thing. if you're barack obama, as he has been doing these attack ads the last few days, he will hammer mitt romney over the head throughout this debate about 47%. if he doesn't, he's mad. because it's an incredibly powerful hammer to use, because whichever way you try and spin that, it was a disaster. he called half of the country a bunch of scrounging victims. what does mitt...
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right now follow the marching bands to the polls. the romney folks are behind. they don't want america to vote right now. if america went and voted right now, nate silver says president obama would win by 138 electoral vote. there are no marching bands leading people to the polls from the romney side right now. that is not what they need. what the romney side needs is they'd still have to persuade people that mitt romney is the guy to vote for. they need to fix what's gone wrong. they need to stop doing whatever it is that has turned so many people off to their candidate. when you ask voters whether they like this mitt romney guy, the answer is a very, very plain answer. no. his favorable ratings are in the low 40s, almost 10 points lower than the ratings for president obama. lower even than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think mitt romney cares about the needs of people like them. some of them are shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will
right now follow the marching bands to the polls. the romney folks are behind. they don't want america to vote right now. if america went and voted right now, nate silver says president obama would win by 138 electoral vote. there are no marching bands leading people to the polls from the romney side right now. that is not what they need. what the romney side needs is they'd still have to persuade people that mitt romney is the guy to vote for. they need to fix what's gone wrong. they need to...
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yesterday, he talks to obama and romney today. what israel's line in the sand would mean for all of us. plus, have you seen chelsea lately?
yesterday, he talks to obama and romney today. what israel's line in the sand would mean for all of us. plus, have you seen chelsea lately?
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wade except by electing mitt romney, right? who will then pick supreme court judges who will do that. but they can't make it so hard to get an abortion that it might as well be illegal. they can make the right to access abortion a right in name only. after republicans won big majorities in 2010, they've enacted restrictions not seen. since roe vs. wade was decided in 1973. and as a result of this new wave of restrictions, we're seeing signs of a return to a reality in america that is looking more and more like the days before roe. "business week" published an interesting story this week out of arizona about a woman who is running a nonprofit program there to help poor women in arizona find ways to access abortions. discusses these new restrictions. you can no longer get an abortion outside tucson or phoenix in arizona. and even then you have to wait 24 hours after a forced ultrasound, which means many women are forced to travel hundreds of miles, and then pay to stay overnight in one of those two cities. pending another new abo
wade except by electing mitt romney, right? who will then pick supreme court judges who will do that. but they can't make it so hard to get an abortion that it might as well be illegal. they can make the right to access abortion a right in name only. after republicans won big majorities in 2010, they've enacted restrictions not seen. since roe vs. wade was decided in 1973. and as a result of this new wave of restrictions, we're seeing signs of a return to a reality in america that is looking...
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the president for mitt romney? ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathi
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governor romney is a clear underdog right now, so why won't the liberal media call him just that? an underdog. could it be because voters love an underdog? we'll take a look at histories november surprises. the prints presses running over time. wall street loves it. the economy, apparently, needs it, and with the easy money, we couldn't poly did over the cliff, could we? wall street legends say, oh, wall street legends say, oh, yes, we would. ally bank. wall street legends say, oh, yes, we would. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you so
governor romney is a clear underdog right now, so why won't the liberal media call him just that? an underdog. could it be because voters love an underdog? we'll take a look at histories november surprises. the prints presses running over time. wall street loves it. the economy, apparently, needs it, and with the easy money, we couldn't poly did over the cliff, could we? wall street legends say, oh, wall street legends say, oh, yes, we would. ally bank. wall street legends say, oh, yes, we...
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. >> what words would you have for mitt romney, given the state of the election campaign right now? >> well, i think you know the debates are very important. >> crucial? >> i think so. and i think if he's gonna double down on that 47% remark, that will cause difficulties because we now know the overwhelming number of those people work and have children. the reason they don't pay federal income taxes is because the median income is as low as 1995. until the current election season, republicans and democrats supported both the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit. i doubled the earned income tax credit. it was signed under the tax credit. reagan started it. we started it with a strong support of republicans in congress. president bush dealt with that, then president obama increased the earned income tax credit for families with more than three children. this is a rejection of basically more than three decades of bipartisan policy to support working families. it's not a bunch of free loaders. there's only 4% of the total population who don't pay federal income tax and don'
. >> what words would you have for mitt romney, given the state of the election campaign right now? >> well, i think you know the debates are very important. >> crucial? >> i think so. and i think if he's gonna double down on that 47% remark, that will cause difficulties because we now know the overwhelming number of those people work and have children. the reason they don't pay federal income taxes is because the median income is as low as 1995. until the current...
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this is the right of the people of the united states. >> were you happy with what mitt romney said about iran? >> translator: i said that i really don't want to express any opinions, but i do believe that unilateral behaviors and bullying behaviors in the world are coming to an end. everyone in the world must seek friendship, humanity, human values and logic. and this is something that will govern the world. >>> president ahmadinejad claims there are no homosexuals in iran. when we come back, you'll hear what he told me when i asked if he believes people are born gay. [ woman ] it's 32 minutes to go time, and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... workin
this is the right of the people of the united states. >> were you happy with what mitt romney said about iran? >> translator: i said that i really don't want to express any opinions, but i do believe that unilateral behaviors and bullying behaviors in the world are coming to an end. everyone in the world must seek friendship, humanity, human values and logic. and this is something that will govern the world. >>> president ahmadinejad claims there are no homosexuals in iran....
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governor romney is right to look at the world that companies operate in, with its challenges and opportunities. over the last 20 years, as communism collapsed and socialism has been discredited, countries around the world has become more business-friendly, lowering taxes and streamlining regulations. the u.s. has to stay competitor, over the long run, investment, industry, and jobs will move to other lands. president obama's view looks at the world from the perspective of an american worker. as more countries have joined the open global economy, these workers face intense competition from much cheap he labor. mckinzie estimates that between 1980 and 2010 the pool of work hes in the world expanded by 1.2 billion as chinese indian, ind it neegs and africans move from rural areas to cities. add to that the powerful effects of technology which make it easier to get work done with fewer workers. we live in exciting times of globalization and amazing technological revolutions. some, those at the top, large companies, will be able to ride through an exciting and expanding new landscape. but many amer
governor romney is right to look at the world that companies operate in, with its challenges and opportunities. over the last 20 years, as communism collapsed and socialism has been discredited, countries around the world has become more business-friendly, lowering taxes and streamlining regulations. the u.s. has to stay competitor, over the long run, investment, industry, and jobs will move to other lands. president obama's view looks at the world from the perspective of an american worker. as...
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you can watch it live right here on cnn, 7:00 eastern. and also cnn.com. don't miss that. >>> we could all agree having children changes your life forever. as parents, we want what is best for our kids. we want to make sure our children are safe and happy. you would think that would be the case for every parent. not so. take a look at this man. this father was willing to strap on a vest filled with explosives and kill as many people as possible, including himself. this father wanted to desert his son, let him grow up without a dad. this father says it is perfectly okay if his 4-year-old son becomes a suicide bomber, too. cnn got this stunning exclusive interview with the father whose choices are so difficult to understa understand. >> reporter: behind these high walls of the prison, among the 7,000 inmates, are several men who say they're hellbent on being terrorists. we've come here to meet a confessed would-be suicide bomber, one of hundred now locked up behind bars. 25-year-old rajallah believed he was carrying out god's will when he and his friends pla
you can watch it live right here on cnn, 7:00 eastern. and also cnn.com. don't miss that. >>> we could all agree having children changes your life forever. as parents, we want what is best for our kids. we want to make sure our children are safe and happy. you would think that would be the case for every parent. not so. take a look at this man. this father was willing to strap on a vest filled with explosives and kill as many people as possible, including himself. this father wanted to...
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in right now to the failure of the president's policies. he has to be able to litigate and make the case that the policies the president has put forward have caused the economy to continue to go down. folks believe the economy is bad right now but what they don't actually believe is it is the president's fault. he has to make that case in the debate with the president standing on the stage with him that the president is the one to blame for the economy we've got right now. >> there is something going on. if he acts too much on the attack, it will look like he is showing disrespect to the president but if he doesn't, then he looks defer yen shl. coach me, tell me how to walk on that stage -- deferential. coach me without being deferential? >> it's a matter of tone and how you address the president. as long as governor romney addresses the president with mr. president, your policies have failed the american people. i think as long as he carries a respectful tone. he needs to be what i would say as passionately aggressive. he is respectful of
in right now to the failure of the president's policies. he has to be able to litigate and make the case that the policies the president has put forward have caused the economy to continue to go down. folks believe the economy is bad right now but what they don't actually believe is it is the president's fault. he has to make that case in the debate with the president standing on the stage with him that the president is the one to blame for the economy we've got right now. >> there is...
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. >> and it points to character, right? this was what i was doing, honor, serving my country, this is what you were doing, breaking a law, it's brilliant. >> sean: how about mitt romney versus obama? president obama was hanging out with bill ayers and jeremiah cite. i was here. i'm not allowed to bring that up. >> i wish mitt romney would play like that. >> allen west, they've been dumping all over him, and he blew them away. do not mess with colonels who have not in combat. >> that's true. very true. >> sean: you mentioned something conservatives are saying. they want mitt to be more aggressive. you want it as well. >> yes. i think his campaign has been soft. his ads -- you impair his tads to obama -- compare his ads to obama. obama's ads are tough, well done, and on message. pounding the daylights out of him, and romney's or -- >> sean: i don't get it. i don't know why we're not seeing more pounding by him. do you think it starts next wednesday in colorado? >> sometimes he says positive things about obama. he cares about
. >> and it points to character, right? this was what i was doing, honor, serving my country, this is what you were doing, breaking a law, it's brilliant. >> sean: how about mitt romney versus obama? president obama was hanging out with bill ayers and jeremiah cite. i was here. i'm not allowed to bring that up. >> i wish mitt romney would play like that. >> allen west, they've been dumping all over him, and he blew them away. do not mess with colonels who have not in...
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right now follow the marching bands to the polls. the romney folks are behind. they don't want america to vote right now. if america went and voted right now, nate silver says president obama would win by 138 electoral vote. there are no marching bands leading people to the polls from the romney side right now. that is not what they need. what the romney side needs is they'd still have to persuade people that mitt romney is the guy to vote for. they need to stop doing whatever it is that has turned so many people off to their candidate. when you ask voters whether they like this mitt romney guy, the answer is a very, very plain answer. no. his favorable ratings are in the low 40s, almost 10 points lower than the ratings for president obama. lower even than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think mitt romney cares about the needs of people like them. some of them are shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will favor the middle class. in florida
right now follow the marching bands to the polls. the romney folks are behind. they don't want america to vote right now. if america went and voted right now, nate silver says president obama would win by 138 electoral vote. there are no marching bands leading people to the polls from the romney side right now. that is not what they need. what the romney side needs is they'd still have to persuade people that mitt romney is the guy to vote for. they need to stop doing whatever it is that has...
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but that's right. i think obviously there's much more pressure, as david said, on mitt romney. he's got to force an error out of president obama. he wants to dominate the coverage coming down to the debate so he can get some momentum. that will mean, on the one hand, be tough and put the pressure on president obama, but at the same time he can't afford to appear mean or, as david said, aloof, so he's going to have a tough balancing act on wednesday night. >> how much pressure is he under right now, mitt romney? >> huge. he is behind right now. he is behind nationally. he is behind in all the battleground states. this is the last big audience that mitt romney is going to have with about 4 1/2 weeks left to go, but, remember, by the time we get to the third debate in late october in the battleground states, you could have had already because of this early voting a third of the voters with votes already in the can. >> and so far the polls at least indicate that mitt romney hasn't been able to capitalize on the economy right now. do you think he can do that with regards to foreign
but that's right. i think obviously there's much more pressure, as david said, on mitt romney. he's got to force an error out of president obama. he wants to dominate the coverage coming down to the debate so he can get some momentum. that will mean, on the one hand, be tough and put the pressure on president obama, but at the same time he can't afford to appear mean or, as david said, aloof, so he's going to have a tough balancing act on wednesday night. >> how much pressure is he under...
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i don't like to bet, but i can tell you right now he doesn't have close to 40%. according to a poll it's 32%. what do republicans need to do to attract the latino vote? >> i don't think they can do much. i don't think you will get near the 40%. one of problematic issues a lot of the latino vote die nap sick responsive to specific situations. take for example arizona where there was hen o been an 50% increase in the number of registered voters among latinos there. a lot of it has to do with events in arizona that we all know about. to the extent we have situations like what is taking place in arizona and utah, indiana, georgia and so on, where there is a type of anti-immigrant legislation that has been proposed and debate that it generates, it puts mitt romney and republicans in a tough situation. they can't dismisses those movements on the one hand and say we're not with you, but on the other hand by not doing, that it inhibits latinos from considering republicans as viable option. >> you have your base here, anti immigrant and concerned about border security and
i don't like to bet, but i can tell you right now he doesn't have close to 40%. according to a poll it's 32%. what do republicans need to do to attract the latino vote? >> i don't think they can do much. i don't think you will get near the 40%. one of problematic issues a lot of the latino vote die nap sick responsive to specific situations. take for example arizona where there was hen o been an 50% increase in the number of registered voters among latinos there. a lot of it has to do...
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so does mitt romney's strategy of saying one thing and then right afterward have his campaign walk it back actually work? alan schroeder is a professor at northeastern university, the author of presidential debates 50 years of high-risk tv. professor, glad to welcome you back into "the war room." is team romney's little two-step with the truth effective? >> you know, unfortunately, i think that strategy is sort of effective and here's the analogy i would use. it's like the newspaper article that gets something wrong. everybody reads the story and gets the mistake in version of what happened but the correction that comes out the next day is on page 35 in a little box and nobody sees it. and so that's what happens here. it really has to get corrected during the debate and that was the job of course of barack obama and for whatever reason, he didn't do it. >> jennifer: let it go means that you end up missing the opportunity to set the record straight in front of 50 million people. we talked about this last night. -- last time, whether it is a better strategy to spend your time rebutting
so does mitt romney's strategy of saying one thing and then right afterward have his campaign walk it back actually work? alan schroeder is a professor at northeastern university, the author of presidential debates 50 years of high-risk tv. professor, glad to welcome you back into "the war room." is team romney's little two-step with the truth effective? >> you know, unfortunately, i think that strategy is sort of effective and here's the analogy i would use. it's like the...
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i think that is exactly right. we faced some very large problems. we have this so-called fiscal cliff that threatens the economy and florida's tax hikes and organized spending cuts. we are implementing the debt over the coming years. il: that is one of the reasons that paul ryan did not vote for it he dodged the tough decision away. he wanted it to be even deeper and address these entitlement costs. but critics say that he is not effectively ceded mr. do you think he does that were changes that initiative tomorrow night? >> i think the governor romney is going to lay out a compelling case our debt problems in the risk of enormous tax hikes on the population that would stagnate growth and put us on a path with increased spending. rising standards of living, and contrasting that with president obama's vision of a social welfare state, moving towards this competent socio- economic expectations. neil: you know the problem may be that mitt romney has, and i mean this in a positive way, he is too smart for words. in other words, he has the iq argument dow
i think that is exactly right. we faced some very large problems. we have this so-called fiscal cliff that threatens the economy and florida's tax hikes and organized spending cuts. we are implementing the debt over the coming years. il: that is one of the reasons that paul ryan did not vote for it he dodged the tough decision away. he wanted it to be even deeper and address these entitlement costs. but critics say that he is not effectively ceded mr. do you think he does that were changes that...
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they've been following what mitt romney has said. >> right. >> they're tuning in to the fact that he wasn't telling the truth last night. >> the conversation we had just a moment ago says on some of these things there are different ways of looking at t the point is, who is going to make the best point to the american people? some things can be proven definitively right or wrong. andrew sullivan, an influential supporter of the president and blogger called his performance absolutely disgracefully bad. let me play a sound bite of what he said and let you respond to that. >> i have never seen a president of the united states blather, blather on like that, bore us, tell us none of his major arguments, fight back against any of the obvious distortions of the other candidate and just sit there. i mean, really. and you know how much i love this guy. >> stephanie, did you feel a little bit of that frustration? >> you know, i appreciate his opinion. i disagree with it. i think the president had a good performance last night. obviously, mitt romney had a good performance, but that's just what
they've been following what mitt romney has said. >> right. >> they're tuning in to the fact that he wasn't telling the truth last night. >> the conversation we had just a moment ago says on some of these things there are different ways of looking at t the point is, who is going to make the best point to the american people? some things can be proven definitively right or wrong. andrew sullivan, an influential supporter of the president and blogger called his performance...
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last night's opening statements set the tone for the debate and mitt romney came right out of the gate with, get this, a joke. let's watch. >> 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me, and so i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most ro n romantic place you could imagine here with me. congratulations. >> that was, i hate to say it, charming. >> yeah. >> james. >> yeah. >> where did that come from? >> it came from mitt romney. he's rather notorious for telling nox that go over lie lead balloons. this did not. he finally found his groove as far as a comedian is concerned. at least for that moment. >> let's talk about the president. he was the one i think that was the base of most consternation. you know, he was looking down a lot. did he know and what did you think about the fact of that split screen? there we are watching it now. we never didn
last night's opening statements set the tone for the debate and mitt romney came right out of the gate with, get this, a joke. let's watch. >> 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me, and so i just want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most ro n...
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>> guest: the romney campaign proved itself in a primary, to be very smart, to be disciplined and the number of their biggest successes, sort of how they went about winning iowa and without drawing too much attention to doing it for a long time and how they won subsequent states, all of this pretty small for evidence of their the ability to outbox santorum and some of the other and opponents opponents by using data. but, they are scrambling to sort of build everything against the obama campaign and anything approaching the ambition against the obama campaign in six months are obviously going to be smaller in four years. >> host: do you think that this campaign is going to rely more on messaging in the presidential campaign or on the targeting technics? what is the next? i mean how much -- does the message still matter or can you just fine-tune it and targeted better and that will be the difference? how you put that together? >> guest: the message still matters in one of the things, this whole narrative takes place 10 to 15 years, has taken place in an era of real partisan polarization
>> guest: the romney campaign proved itself in a primary, to be very smart, to be disciplined and the number of their biggest successes, sort of how they went about winning iowa and without drawing too much attention to doing it for a long time and how they won subsequent states, all of this pretty small for evidence of their the ability to outbox santorum and some of the other and opponents opponents by using data. but, they are scrambling to sort of build everything against the obama...